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Another catch-up post

It has been over a month since I posted the first catch-up post and since then I have received a lot of positive feedback and positive vibes from many of You. I also love reading about how everyone is moving forward in their life. Seeing Taurenpowah’s wedding photo warms my heart. It is not quite “a lord of an African tribe” that he has promised to become but I say it is even better.

Given the above, it would be a shame to stop. I will try to post an update from two or three members roughly once a month. For this post, I have an update from three members. Blodyn – our beloved Welsh demon and Lead Officer. Dilv – an old timer Russian tryhard. Crowley – the elite Mythic plus pusher and rogue master. Enjoy the read and share your comments on our discord! 🙂


Blodyn

I can’t say I’ve quit the game completely as I still log in when I have a spare moment to play however, since I’ve stopped being a ‘semi-casual’ For Fun raider a lot has changed!

To begin with I changed jobs a couple of times, I tried night work in the care industry and that didn’t work out & then I tried night work in the hospitality industry and that also didn’t work out. I really struggled with night work and my mental health suffered a lot until I had to admit to myself that it just wasn’t for me. Since then I got a job in my local KFC which is just down the road & I’ve been promoted to team leader (management) already, it’s not glamourous but it pays the bills & honestly, it’s pretty fun at times.

During the time I was struggling with my mental health and changing jobs, I split up with Louis. We were together 12 years but I felt so stuck. Since then I’ve started a new relationship with Rob who has been amazing for me, giving me freedom and support to do things at my pace and strive for things I really want and need.

We bought a house together in December 2021, well technically the bank bought our house and now we’re paying the bank for it! But it’s ours damnit! It’s amazing honestly, I really love having my own space, it’s something I didn’t ever think I’d be able to afford or achieve.

House keys to Bethan’s very own place. You can find pictures of the actual house on our discord General chat – just search for “from: Blodyn”. 🙂

I learned to drive back in February & passed my test, I don’t have a car though because that’s expensive, I’m happy to walk to work and Rob already has a car I can borrow if I need to.

So to say that I have done a lot these last few years is accurate. I feel really good about where I am and about where I’m going in life.

And now for probably the biggest news & something I imagine will be a shock to most people who knew me when I was raiding with For Fun; I’m expecting to become a mother in February 2023!

The new generation of For Fun is growing!

Crowley

Since I’ve stopped raiding with For Fun, I think it was the start of covid, I have been gaming less. I took my education to an upper level with a master’s degree, which required me to go to the Netherlands, sadly the lockdown made it impossible. I still finished it and got a job at a bank in cyber security. Life has been fun lately because I started to play in a band again. This time it’s not rock but it’s jazz. Follow us on Instagram @iwsc. I do more casual gaming now like an old man (Hey Tankdoctor). Anyways I hope someday to meet you all IRL. Kisses from your best 3rd world country, Turkey.

An old man enjoying his jazz band. 🙂

Dilv

Not sure if many of you still remember a crazy boomkin tryhard back from Cataclysm times – it was a while ago, and only for a short stint. I joined the guild around the Cataclysm release and left early into Mists of Pandaria. Still, I do remember many of you guys, as well as the Swedish part of the guild from back then – Codina, Ztek, Dacke et al, and I’m still talking to Kreweta on messenger every now and then. Meeting Kreweta and his mother in Moscow some time around 2015 was a real treat too – it’s a shame I can’t find a single photo, it surely would have looked good here.

A few quick bio facts – I’m Russian, lived there all my life up until March this year (sigh). Computer science background and a bit older than most in this guild, 36 now and was 25 back then.

My relationship with video games in general, and WoW in particular, were not simple. Playing casually was never really good fun for me. Even if I could combine hardcore gaming with studying and later an IT career, they do take a toll on real-life image and relationships. I do love video games, but it somewhat surprisingly turned out I do value real life even more.

Gaming really started for me when I was 16, entered a university, and moved away from my parents into a dorm in another city. Boy was I a nerd! We played all sorts of LAN and single-player games for 12+ hours a day on average, and when WoW first came out I couldn’t even afford a subscription. Some folks who could were kicked out and didn’t graduate, so in retrospect that played out quite well. The desire to live through this experience though lasted for years and resulted in 3 distinct stints with 3 different guilds and generated memories that I hold dearly, for which I’m grateful to all of you guys.

My first time was about 1.5 years into vanilla, around the time Ahn’Qiraj was released. Was tough to join mid-expansion and it was not a full/proper experience, so after a few years I joined right ahead of the Cata release and became a proud member of “For Fun”. One expansion felt like the right balance for other priorities, so I quit. Never having lived through a proper vanilla experience left a scar though, so I couldn’t resist joining a fan-made vanilla server called LightBringer once I learned about it. Cleared it through Naxx to close the loop for good.

Gaming has been good fun for a long time. Still is, but I’ve learned over the years that the more time I put in, the more miserable it ultimately makes me. I’m married to a woman I love. I’m a father to 4 kids. I’m an EVP in an international company. And if the price for this is not playing video games, then so be it.

Dilv and his wife.

When I sent this article for review, the Chief Editor came back saying it’s too much flowers and roses. Doesn’t help our valued readers and isn’t too believable either. Well let me assure you it wasn’t and still isn’t, I just wasn’t sure the whining part was a requirement.

I’m in my third marriage and have been through some shit. One of our kids is mine from the previous marriage (lives with us), two are hers from her previous one (also live with us), and one is our mutual which adds fun and complexity to the equation, although it’s been a few years and we’re well past the early stages. Due to the recent events we’re moving to a third country in six months with four kids, one of them a newborn – spent five months in Israel and now moving to Cyprus.

My key idea though is external problems and challenges, however tough they look, are all workable and one can even find fun in going through them. All that as long as you yourself, and your close ones have your back and don’t have to fight internal conflicts and inconsistencies. For me, one of those has been time commitments to video games vs real life, and I feel I’m living a happier and more rewarding life now.

Taking a photo of all four kids looking into a camera is a challenge.
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A short catch-up post

Hello everyone. It has been almost exactly one year since our WoW guild has disbanded. I know that I and some of you miss the good old days, weekly raids, and the everyday company. While there are no immediate plans to jump back into the action, with the Dragonflight expansion looking even less promising that BfA, I believe our safest bet to bring back the <For Fun> spirit might be just waiting for the Ashes of Creation. However, that is still somewhat distant and meanwhile I thought it would be nice to share with you a little “catch up” on what our guild members have been up to recently.

For this post it is an update from me, Taurenpowah, and Beliaranzo. If you enjoy this post and would like to read more, let me know on Discord and I will try to make some more.


Kreweta

Since quitting the game I have tried raiding with Russian communities, New World, single player games like GTA V, The Witcher, and some other games too. However, I realize I am not as much of a gamer as some folks out there, as I do get bored rather fast – especially with single player games. As a result, I know often study and code after work hours and sometimes watch some TV series or Youtube. However, besides this boring stuff, there have been some other interesting things happening.

As some of you may already know, I have been dissatisfied with my work for a while, knowing that I am not really bringing my customers real value. I have sent my CV to couple companies and finally since May 2022 I am a fulltime employee of Google Poland.

However, I am not working on the dream projects with billions of users like Youtube, Gmail or Google Maps. Indeed, my project appears to be rather dull for now but I hope it is going to get better. Therefore, it has been a little disappointing so far but maybe it is just an opportunity for me to step up and liven things up?

However, working at Google has other benefits. One such thing are free meals during the day. That includes breakfast, lunch and dinner. I admit that I have never eaten healthier in my adult life.

My standard breakfast – dark bread with black currant jam, milk and croissants (not shown).

Besides that, since February 2021 I have been renting an apartment for myself. A very nice change after renting a small room for 10 years. This naturally opens up some opportunities. One such thing is that I am now repeatedly hosting a LAN party for a group of friends. We are playing Diablo 2 (classic) and so far after three meetings we are in the middle of act 3. Honestly, these LAN parties are a great social experience and game is just a nice fun supplement. I definitely recommend you guys try for yourselves even if your friends have never played Diablo 2 it is still going to be great fun!

The first episode of LAN party at my new place. You can see the character selection screen on the TV.

Finally, I will be turning 30 years old this year. With it, it is time to keep my promise I gave to myself about five years ago: “If love will not find me passively by 30, I better start looking for it actively.”. This means that for a short while now I have been doing stuff like speed-dating and dating apps. The results… are complicated. To keep it simple, I will just say that I am dating a really wonderful girl right now, but it has gotten rather complicated. Complicated in a way that I would never foresee. I would like to say more but it is a delicate matter and right now I am on a proverbial crossroad. And there is no Barrens chat to help me decide where to go. 🙂

Open air concert on Warsaw’s “Dni Ursynowa”. Now I have some company that makes it fun and worthwhile to go to events like that.

Taurenpowah

Hey! I quit the game quite a long time ago somewhere in 2015. A lot of time has passed but I still remember you guys, your nicknames, your personalities, the good times we shared, and sometimes think about you. Most of my adolescent years went into this game and you guys were a big part of my life as well. You were pretty much my only friends.

I quit the game when I started going to university and found a girlfriend. Basically, started venturing into real life. You know how it is. Finding the right balance between chores, social life, responsibilities, and video games is challenging. So for 5 years, I’ve been studying to get my pharmacist degree and having a social life. After graduating, I moved with my girlfriend to a new city, and we both started working as pharmacists. Got a dog.

Doggo is 3 years and her name is Spurga, that’s Donut in Lithuanian

My free time was spent trying to keep my life together while supporting my drug habit and watching some TV series or movies or casually playing video games. But basically, life revolved around drugs and I was in a wrong place mentally. I basically switched my addiction to video games to drugs which was an even better escape. Had trouble with the police. Health and relationship were deteriorating.

The past year was ups and downs. Exactly one year ago I went to detox and rehab. After that, I quit my job and built an e-commerce website. In a few months, I saw that the growth of the website wasn’t fast enough to have enough money so I went back to work in the pharmacy. But I got more control of my life, started getting into powerlifting, going to NA meetings, and trusting my mental health to professionals. Last month we got married in Rhodes, surrounded by our dearest friends and family. Next month we are moving back to the city I grew up in. We are buying a house but it will take time until it gets built so we are going to be renting a place nearby for a year. I’m not exactly very well today but in a much better place than I was in.

Taurenpowah and his wife. Kreweta’s jokes about married couples will not be jokes anymore. 🙂

Beliaranzo

Good day. I joined the guild just before the release of Cataclysm way back in 2010, and only quit the game around middle of the Battle for Azeroth in 2020 because I chose to focus on my studies. I briefly returned for the start of Shadowlands but had to stop playing again because of the same reasons.

Shortly after quitting the game, I finished my bachelor’s degree in Archives and Collections Management and started on my master’s degree. Just a few months ago I finished my master’s degree in Archives and Records management, the first of its kind in Scandinavia. I have the honour of being one of the first three students to graduate from said master’s program. I am finally finished with my studies after what feel like forever, though I might have to return in a few years to start on my Ph.D.

My doggo companion.

I have just recently also moved into my own apartment in Trondheim, where I studied, and am now finally living by myself after five years of living in a student collective with 14 other people. I also somehow managed to land myself a job within records management at my university during my studies and have now been working there for around a year. I have mostly stayed away from multiplayer games after quitting World of Warcraft, and I have fallen in love with RPG games such as the Pillars of Eternity games and the Pathfinder games. I am still playing Dungeons and Dragons regularly with my friends, even if we had to switch to playing online during the Covid lockdowns and not everyone being in the same city anymore.

A view from my new apartment. Disclaimer – not a summer photo. 🙂

Unfortunately, Covid combined with my studies has not allowed me to keep much of a social life during these past few years, something I am looking to change now that I am finally finished studying. I am not entirely sure about what to do with my life now that I am longer a student, but the future is looking bright, my health is better than ever before, I have a job, friends, and a place by myself!

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The fun has left the game!

On July 25th (Sunday), after one last heroic raid, I have announced the very emotional and heart-breaking decision that the <For Fun>-Ragnaros will cease to run organized World of Warcraft activities indefinitely. Thank you all who have been a part of this adventure.

Naturally this is very depressing for me personally. For the past 13 years, with varying degree of engagement, I have been a part of this guild. Ever since the beginning I have had the vision that <For Fun> will be a semi-casual community that will last for years and will continue to bring joy and laughter to all who wish to join us. While it did last quite a while, the last 2 years have been the worst years ever and even despite continuous effort to improve it things just kept going worse and worse. Finally, the last weeks have shown that even after very recent patch 9.1, we are struggling to even make a solid 10 man raid and most of us find the game dull. At this point, stopping is more like euthanasia and just cuts the unnecessary pain. I also have no illusion to hope that World of Warcraft will get any better as at its current state it needs a true revolution.

How did it come to that?

Looking back at previous expansions I feel that the content provided by the game has not changed that much. We still have dungeons, raids and some world stuff to do here and there like daily quests, professions, valor points. I believe it is the “enhancements” and “twists” of these basic elements that brought the in-game community to a state in which fun is secondary and some unhealthy competition is the primary value the game promotes. With the modern WoW community it is impossible to find enough players just to have fun.

Some of the points to think about are the following:

Community indicatorPASTNOW
Trade chatUsed to look for a party or raid. Filled with guild recruitment messages. Occasionally filled with banter.Selling booosts for gold.
In game communityCommunity where realm reputation mattered, and people were more helpful to new players.Concept of a realm reduced to a joke. Insane requirements to join raids and mythic+.
End game approachabilityOnce geared in heroics or via a catch-up mechanic you could easily find a pug group in the chat to start raiding, sometimes you needed an achievement.Unless you have cleared the thing multiple times you should not even try to pug it.
Character upkeepCap your weekly valor points by running few chill dungeons. Maybe do a weekly 2-3 boss raid.Infinite grind of Artifact Power. Exhausting farm of Mythic+ for items. Weekly torghast, daily quests.

Even the most recent utmost effort to revive the guild by building an in-game community shows how bad the community is. Running chill mythic+ dungeons where you ask people to join discord and whisper you with “I am here to have fun!” has proved to be an insane requirement. Despite having a tank and healer, we have had to wait for group for dozens of minutes. Most people cannot read the description and will shove their AotC, raider.io and other bullshit in my face. Others will tell you how retarded this requirement is. Yet others will genuinely force themselves to comply so that they can do their weekly run.

What is next?

While giving up on World of Warcraft, I can only wish that many of the bonds created via our guild will remain strong and active. Ideally we would find another virtual world where we can all play together, however, that does not seem very possible. If you guys are going to try other MMOs like Final Fantasy XIV or New World, let us know in the discord!

Those who choose to continue playing WoW will move on to a new guild to have fun. I definitely do not see much point staying in a dead guild due to some nostalgia feelings!

As for me, I am going to retire as a raid leader. I am probably going to try the New World MMO once its released. Meanwhile I will try playing with some Russian WoW guilds, where I can have relaxed fun while also practising some Russian.

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Preparing for 9.1

This Thursday, on June 17, Blizzard has announced the release date for the 9.1 patch. Surprisingly it is only coming very soon, precisely on the June 30th. It is therefore finally time to wake up from the slumber and gather up again to have some fun and kill some bosses.

Raiding plans & goals

Our raiding schedule will not change. That is we are still raiding on Fridays 19:30-22:30 and Sundays 19:00-22:30. Normal and Heroic difficulty of the new is available since July 7th, therefore our first raid will take place on July 9th (Fri). You can already plan ahead and make sure you have your favorite beverage and snacks.

In general our raiding goals for this patch are the usual:

  1. Clear the normal difficulty
  2. Clear the heroic difficulty
  3. Consider killing few mythic bosses before getting bored

I suspect we might have many new faces joining the raids. As always, I am happy to take as many guild members as possible. However, some minimal requirements to join should be met by all members:

  • average item level of 215 or higher
  • fully enchanted gear
  • having all consumables: oils/sharpening stones, flasks, desolate armor kit, food.

If you need help gearing up, I will personally play every evening before and after patch release so you may tag along for some mythic+ fun! In fact, me and Payo have been doing it for past months and we have had some fun and promising results…

Join our in-game community!

In the previous post on this blog I have posted that Professor Koksio will attempt some more unconventional recruitment methods and lead the charge through numerous Mythic+ dungeons. Me and Payo were logging every evening and looking for DPS souls to clear some keys. We have been very picky and had some very precise requirements that you can see below. Sometimes sometimes not even 2,000 raider.io score is enough if you cannot read descriptions.

If we were joined by some nice people, we invited them to the in-game community. After few weeks, we have over 50 members, which very heartwarming. It does in a way remind me recruitment from old-days, when cross-server boundaries were not an issue.

I would love to see all of our guild members join the community and share some banter and find some playmates in there. You can join by using this link, or by applying directly to the “For Fun” community within game via search functionality.

I sincerely believe that by making this community grow we can grow a little bit and possibly introduce more raiding teams! Let us make this patch great.

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Unconventional recruitment methods

With the Easter behind us I am back in full force focusing on bringing our guild to the best shape since Cataclysm. Some of you might remember these glorious days when our guild had 3 full fledged 10-man raiding teams, each with its own raid leader and unique raiding schedule. Whilst this has been nearly 10 years since then, it is now that I feel more motivated than ever to make us the best casual gaming community on our server!

In order to achieve that however, some unconventional recruitment methods are needed. Back in Wrath of the Lich King and Cataclysm expansions you could get plenty of new members by simply spamming trade chat and running pug raids. These days, trade chat is overwhelmed with boosters and other illicit services and pugging raids has become cross-realm so that it is hard to make people join your guild afterwards. For these reasons, some alternative recruitment methods are needed.

I have thought about this for a while and over the past few weeks have tried the following:

Some of them had decent results and might bring some good results in soon future. Running PUG raids has been a complete waste of time at this point in the patch, but we might try that again some time later. Online recruitment results are hard to judge without metrics but they take very little effort so I will just keep refreshing them.

Finally the latest idea is to keep running Mythic+ groups. For this I have refreshed my old toon Koksio: not the hero we need, but the hero we deserve. Starting today you will see me running Mythic+ almost every day, so if you feel like running some feel free to join!

This is our new hero. As seen on my screen with my graphics settings.
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Raiding plans until 9.1.0!

The heroic Castle Nathria is no more a threat to our guild and we do not currently have the numbers to go mythic Castle Nathria progression on our own. The new patch is rumored to go live in June/July/August so it is still a tad too early to take a break and go dormant.

Influenced by the results of our poll, I have came up with the following guild-activity schedule for the following months. Further commentary below the picture.

First of all, none of these obligatory. We are <For Fun> so you can join if you want some entertainment.

The schedule includes a heroic full clear run every second week. This is because there is still a lot of you who really love the current raid. You are welcome to join with your 190+ ilvl alts, but beware that if we begin to struggle to much with getting kills, I will ask you to relog your main!

Every Sunday — which is also the preferred day for activities — we will do something unusual! From 19:00-19:15 there will be assembling groups, if you want to log in late, try not to be late more than 15 minutes. During these 15 minutes we will sort out groups in an undefined fashion. Beware that even M+ teams, will not necessarily be groups of 5 guildies, but may be groups of 3 or 4 players if there is not enough tanks or healers. Some pugging may be inevitable, but that is only an opportunity to taint more souls to join us!

Hope you guys enjoy these weeks of chilling and build up some progression hunger for the next raid tier!

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Castle Nathria cleared

On February 26th, the worlds press gathered in an anticipatory huddle outside Castle Nathria, eagerly awaiting news of For Fun finally downing Sire Denathrius and earning the prized [Ahead of the Curve] achievement. After numerous wipes, and the hunters arguing over who got to use their shared braincell the tactics clicked for the raid group, as everyone boogied left, sashayed right and pranced forward to avoid every mechanic after much trial and error. As arrows, spells and blades flashed toward the raid boss, backed by the sound of ‘RAMPING’ and a chorus of squawking birds Denathrius finally went down.

Many thanks to those who stayed, and especially those who have raided with us from the beginning. For the remainder of the patch, we will focus on Heroic re-clears, achievement runs and as always, having fun. We will probably go down to one raid day per week and try to take it slow as we recruit more members, establish new raid groups and prepare for another successful patch having fun and downing bosses.

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For Fun enters the Internet

I am pleased to say that from today onwards this website is our guild’s official website. On top of that, it is not some poor-man’s website where we have no control of the features we can add or code we can write. We have full control. The only sad part is that some of the more direct and “fun” domain names were unavailable.

There are many reasons for why I felt we need a website and here are some ideas on what this website will be used for 🙂

Getting to know our members

The guild has been going for so long that we have had hundreds of members and great anecdotes. This website allows us to post these stories and brief member introductions so that those who are new or recently coming back can read a thing or two and get more familiar.

To start with this, I am building a “Hall of Fame” section which will have pages introducing some of the most recognisable names. This is just the beginning, we may later start doing some post-series about past-dramas, anecdotes and maybe even some face reveals (wink wink Ornek).

Guild plans announcements

As a dedicated guild master I always have some idea for where we are heading. I realize that so far I have been doing poorly communicating these plans with the rest of the guild members. Even if I do share it publicly it is easy to miss if you happen to be offline at the moment. This site will be a great medium for publishing such “strategy” posts.

Also, this will be a good place for a discussion. You will be able to comment on posts and influence the strategy! Do remember however that we are a not democratic organization 🙂

Recruitment

With the website up and running we can have an application form for guests to apply to our guild. Thus far our recruitment has been primarily driven by spamming Trade chat, but recently people hardly read trade chat (they use LFG now) and furthermore it is full of annoying spammers and scammers, so my messages get lost quickly.

With the website up and running it is now also easier for people to apply. Instead of referring them to contact me by battle-tag, I will simply give an URL.

With this being said, we will begin our recruitment campaign on forums such as MMO-Champion, Wowhead, Reddit. I will also update the trade chat spam and our guild profile on WowProgress.

Endless possibilities

The earlier usages are very basic, but there is a lot of place for creativity. You may see some polls and contests, various post-series, guides and so on. Sky is the limit and I am on the cloud nine.

It is time I shape up and make For Fun better than it has ever been!